It strikes me that the MHRA have allowed both Ainsworths and Helios an undue amount of time to comply (which they have only partially done). This maybe because they regard unregistered homeopathic medicines as a low priority in terms of public health. I imagine that they act much more quickly in the case of unlicensed medicines that contain active ingredients. Reply
If they “revise the manufacturing method”, on what basis would a consumer of homeopathy assume the product to the same as it used to be? And isn’t labelling uber-important in homeopathy – to the point where you only need to stand a bottle of pills on a handwritten label in order to imbue it with the magic? And, given the inverse nature of homeopathic remedies, would a “confectionery” label mean the pills will make users lethargic? Reply
So their justification for being allowed more time is that they ignored the law when they were told about it, presumably hoping that it would continue not to be enforced, despite the MHRA giving very clear indications otherwise. In MHRA’s position I would refer them to the reply given by the respondents in Arkell v. Pressdram. Reply
Not once, either by an MCA/MHRA inspector or regulatory official, were we advised to actually remove the kits from sale and this issue has not arisen until now when a small group of sceptics started lobbying the MHRA. We protest that anyone has shopped us for breaking the law?? I’m sure that will go down well as defence in court. Of course, if they took the confectionery route, they might find the Health and Safety Executive even more of a problem. They tend not to be so polite and Reply
So we aren’t “genuine members of the public”? Next they will accuse us of all being the same person. Reply
Only users of homeopathic products and other believers in medieval superstition qualify as members of the public. They are the chosen ones. Anyone with an ounce of scientific literacy, who actually understands what homeopathy is, cannot be a member of the public. Very biblical, old testament… The similarity between homeopathy and religion, in every practical respect, is uncanny. Coincidentally so is its similarity to a medical scam. Reply
How does one go about acting like a ‘normal member of the public’? Is there a course we can take? Reply
The above going on are in the UK. There is an article that appeared many years ago on the effectiveness of homeopathic remedies to state that these are not sugar and water. http://homeoint.org/morrell/londonhh/outbreak.htm What is the truth behind it? Reply
Schemeit Please keep to the topic of this blogpost – the MHRA and unlicensed homeopathic ‘medicines’ and kits. Reply
The blog writes about the ” Sugar coated nonsense” and ” Ingredients – Sucrose 0.2g, Other ingredients None, Active ingredients None”. I put in a paper that shows this is not true. The report shows such sugar pills to provide results superior to the conventional medicine. What would you say of the report that goes on to state that this is part of the parliamentary records in UK? Incidentally there is another write up from the USA for flu epidemic: http://www.homeopathyforflu.com/dewey.pdf Here also the results of Sucrose 0.2 gms +++ are far superior to the conventional medicine. One thing is clear: If the results are so dramatic, it cannot be just sugar coated nonsense. Reply
Schemeit said: I put in a paper that shows this is not true. The report shows such sugar pills to provide results superior to the conventional medicine. What would you say of the report that goes on to state that this is part of the parliamentary records in UK? Am I expected to be impressed by what you, yourself wrote in a report and submitted to Parliament? One thing is clear: If the results are so dramatic, it cannot be just sugar coated nonsense. No, it is not clear. Not until you have eliminated all other possible, simpler, more probable and more plausible explanations. That, you have not yet done. Reply
I did not write the report. It was available on the net. I provided the link. Does it create a problem? The report from America is also not written by me. I only provided the link. It seems to eliminate – self curing disease notion ~(people were dying), anecdote (to many people getting well). What could be the simpler more probable and more plausible explanations? It seems Aspirin was killing people. Reply
Schemeit I appreciate English may not be your first language and no doubt you are better at speaking English than I would be speaking your first language. However, your comments are difficult to understand. You said: I put in a paper that shows this is not true. That looks to me like a claim you had written a paper. You then went on to talk about what appeared to be a completely different subject: Incidentally there is another write up from the USA for flu epidemic: So it seems like you were talking about one paper you wrote, then move on to talk about something else written 90 years ago and is just someone’s opinion, unsubstantiated and unsubstantiatable personal anecdotes. Reply
Unsubstantiated and unsubstantiatable personal anecdotes? I would guess so. It only would have made a difference to the patients of these homeopath doctors. Reply
Schemeit said: Unsubstantiated and unsubstantiatable personal anecdotes? I would guess so. I’m glad you agree. Reply
My English is not very good. Unsubstantiated and unsubstantiatable personal anecdotes? I would guess so. This was meant to be sarcastic. Reply