Interesting that in their “other effective treatment” options they suggest “waiting for 72 hours”. I wonder how many of the “positive” results in all those other trials were really just a result of time, not action? Reply
Nice work, thanks very much. It seems that Bronfort has been honing his skills in interpretive bias since I first first came across his work with this “systematic” review of chiropractic for low back pain http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15125860. You have to dig deeper now to find the sleights of hand. The Mills study is even less reliable than you make it out to be. It was on prevention of acute otitis media, and the outcomes measured were highly subjective, and therefore *very* vulnerable to bias in an unblinded study. Episodes of acute OM, surgery, and prescriptions of antibiotics superficially seem to be “objective”, but they all depend on the subjective diagnosis of AOM. A study done well before the Mills trial (will dig for the reference if I am pressed for it), took nearly 1000 children and asked ENT surgeons to assess if they needed surgery. The 50% that were thought to not need surgery, were then reassessed by another doctor. The 50% that were thought to not need surgery, were then reassessed by another doctor. And so on, until almost every child had been assessed as needing surgery. So, the decision whether a child needs grommets or not is completely random. (Rates of surgery for otitis media have fallen dramatically since that paper was published.) Dropout rates were higher than anticipated (about 15%), and were higher in the control group than the intervention group. Results were not analysed on an “intention to treat” basis, so this could hide an additional source of bias. I haven’t looked at the Wahl study, but would be surprised if it doesn’t have the same methodological weaknesses. Reply
Wow, this is shocking in how unconclusive the evidence is. Thanks for posting, very informative. Reply
Excellent post, once again, Zeno. @ Michael Yes, re Bronfort and bias, it’s interesting to note what Ernst has had to say about him the past. The last sentence of the quote below speaks volumes: Quote “Bronfort[10] concluded that SM and/or mobilization are viable options for treating low back and neck pain. Bronfort[13] concluded that SM has a better effect than massage and a comparable effect to prophylactic drugs for headache. Reid[21] found only limited evidence from methodologically poor trials for effectiveness in cervicogenic dizziness. All other conclusions agreed that the effectiveness of SM is not supported by the results from rigorous clinical trials]…..Three systematic reviews were related to SM for neck pain[10-12] of which one reached a a positive[10] overall conclusion and this was the same review which reached a positive conclusion regarding back pain. The most authoritative of the three reviews[12] stated that SM/mobilization is effective only when combined with other interventions such as exercise and as a sole treatment for neck pain, it is not of demonstrable effectiveness. Similarly, there are three systematic reviews of SM for headache.[13-15] While Bronfort et al.[13] concluded that SM is as effective as other interventions, the other two teams of reviewers[14,15] did not find conclusive evidence in favour of SM…..Our previous work[6] has shown that the conclusions of reviews of SM for back pain appear to be influenced by authorship and methodological quality such that authorship by osteopaths or chiropractors and low methodological quality are associated with a positive conclusion. It is perhaps relevant to note that all three of the overtly positive recommendations for SM in the indications back pain,[10] neck pain[10] and headache[13] originate from the same chiropractor.” Ref: E Ernst, P H Canter. A systematic review of systematic reviews of spinal manipulation J R Soc Med 2006;99:192-196 http://jrsm.rsmjournals.com/cgi/content/full/99/4/192?ijkey=67d13fec77bd5ae1759151315cce803fdc962330 Reply
Excellent Blogging! Sets out in very clear terms just how little of the evidence chiropractors are referring to is actually chiropractic evidence! I’ve already asked for the General Osteopathic Councils verdict of the Bronfort report (as it mentions OMT). Their reply and how they view the report makes an interesting comparison to the views fo the GCC. Hopefully blogging on this tomorrow. Good work. Reply
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I’m surprised it took so long for someone like the above to comment on your site. The majority of the people in these skeptical blogs are radically against everything that hasn’t been explained, or approved by a scientist. Eventually, you get get the radical opposite to post and what is supposed to be an intelligent debate turns into something a childish melee. Reply
@middleoftheroad There is nobody “like the above”, as you put it. He is unique and much beloved by Zeno and by me. Why – we’ve even given him his own forum here. So there’s no danger of anything turning into a childish melee. 🙂 Reply
No RCT = No evidence = No claim = No way! I suspect this excerpt from the New Zealand Chiropractic association would be perceived by potential clients as a claim! And just look at those claims! Who needs traditional medicine!!(Check other similar claims and a rather one-sided ‘selection’ of ‘research’ at http://www.chiropractic.org.nz/research-literature ) Other Health Issues and Conditions A smaller number of clinical trials alongside other preliminary studies, case reports and anecdotal evidence show that chiropractic may be effective in many different conditions such as colic, ear infection and other paediatric issues, HIV and immune problems, asthma, multiple sclerosis and other nervous system disorders, infertility issues, digestive and cardiovascular health etc. It is important to realise that chiropractic is not the treatment of any condition. The purpose of chiropractic care is to reduce interference to the nerve system, allowing the person to experience greater function and an overall improvement in quality of life. Reply
Yes Andrew, I think skeptics in all countries should be looking the claims being made and the regulatory frameworks that chiros have to work within and see what can be done about about these outrageous claims. I bet every one of these regulatory frameworks — whether statutory or not — say something about ‘protecting the public’. They now need to be called to account. Reply
Given the comprehensive demolition of Bronfort’s effort to show chiroquackery is useful for ear infections, I have to ask how much is down to ignorance and how much down to plain, straightforward dishonesty. Chiroquackery is a business so I know where my vote goes. Reply
We often see comments like osteopathy is a different treatment to chiropractic or physiotherapy. Osteopathy, chiropractic and physiotherapy are professions – not treatments. Each may employ a wide range of treatments, some modestly evidence-based, most not at all, but if we are to examine what they offer we need to distinguish between the semantics of professional titles and the treatments provided by each profession (including overlaps). Reply