Floor manager? If only! Man, how you chiropractors like to inflate people’s status (normally your own)! Unfortunately, the highest I ever achieved in a supermarket was being in charge of the cardboard crushing machine at Waitrose in Southend-on-sea, having been demoted from shelf-stacking (after an issue with jaffa-cakes that I’d prefer never again to discuss).

Brilliant posts by the way, they reveal much about the inner workings of the chiropractric mind.

You have shamelessly fabricated a story about an accusation appearing on my blog. This ‘irate poster’ doesn’t exist, except in your fevered imagination, which rather suggests you’re the one who needs help. You sound as barmy as the first guy I banned from my blog and who is also banned from this one. Funny, that.

Now please tell me why you think Obama is qualified to make a judgement on chiropractic and why you think his endorsement is relevant.

On Sunday 20 June 2010 at 11:44, you said:

So this will be my last post

Then just an hour and a half later you said:

It would seem that the accusations by a rather irrate blogger on your wife’s site accusing you both that you were actively tracing posters, especially those who disagree with you, via their IP address and web history, and his suggestion was you were doing it illegally, may be accurate? Good grief I really hope so.

You obviously have little idea about the web or IP addresses or blogs.

Then again, no one on Skepticat’s blog accused us of ‘actively tracing posters’.

However, if you want to put your name to an accusation that either of us has done something illegal, can you ask your lawyer to get in touch with me? Or perhaps you should report it to the police? Then again, they don’t look too kindly on people wasting their time.

Skepticat is not “AKA Mrs Henness”, so why are you trying to make something of it? Do you think that’s something particularly juicy that you’ve just managed to work out all by your self?

If you abuse people, human nature is to give some back, either take it or leave it alone.

Which is exactly why Skepticat gives as good as she gets. Better in fact. Which I suspect is what is upsetting you and why you have sunk to casting pathetic aspersions about her. However, neither on this blog nor on her own is there a single instance of Skepticat abusing anyone who did not abuse her or me or another poster first. Can’t say the same for you, can I?

You do not however deny the accuracy of my last post….but of course you could do what you usually do, cherry pick and skip around the issues to bolster your own views and that of this website.

It was such an obviously ill-informed rant, it really wasn’t worth the effort to demolish, easy as that would have been.

Like Skepticat, I frequently leave such comments for all to see. They keep everyone informed and my more intelligent readers entertained.

maybe better than you think.

It would seem that the accusations by a rather irrate blogger on your wife’s site accusing you both that you were actively tracing posters, especially those who disagree with you, via their IP address and web history, and his suggestion was you were doing it illegally, may be accurate? Good grief I really hope so.

You do not have my permission to trace anything about me, just for the record, although I am sure I am not hard to find lol

If this is accurate, then your actions, opinions and purpose of your sites may suggest something even more sinister.

@Mrs Henness (Skepticat)

I sincerly hope you get well soon. Your postings, on both this site and your own when people disagree with you, could suggest that you are someone who may genuinely need help. If you abuse people, human nature is to give some back, either take it or leave it alone.

@Mr Henness (Zeno)

You do not however deny the accuracy of my last post….but of course you could do what you usually do, cherry pick and skip around the issues to bolster your own views and that of this website.

enjoy the weekend.

I hope you feel better after that, dear. A couple things:

“Skepticat…has no formal university education .. and is a middle class housewife…”

Neither of these assertions are true and you have no grounds whatsoever for thinking they are but I understand why you feel the need to make them and then run away having done so.

“they have stopped people posting who disagree with them,”

This is demonstrable nonsense as is evident from the comments on both blogs. People who disagree are welcome on our blogs; people who who repeatedly post gratuitous abuse or continually refuse to engage with questions raised by others are not. Sum total of people banned on my blog: two. Same for Zeno’s.

I note your failure to answer my question about Obama and I’m left wondering how you think his ‘endorsement’ of chiropractic is relevant to anything.

“A cretin is a cretin,” as you say. And a coward is a coward.

LOL! You’re not even very good at insults. Or using Google.

In all seriousness, why bother with these people? They are simply unwilling to listen to any reason and their deep seated hatred for our profession is pretty obvious. Should we become as obtuse as they are, well one may argue that it would not affect the outcome nor change their minds on any level, so why not. I choose however to post and leave them to their party hats and silly games but to quote another poster who nseems to have been banned, to enjoy their back slapping moments.

So this will be my last post I think but it is my understanding, and I genuinely aplogise if the information I give here is not accurate as I would hate to be tarred with the same brush as Zeno’s friends but;

Zeno (AKA Mr Henness) has a Higher National Diploma in Computer Studies and runs a computer repair shop.

Skepticat (AKA Mrs Henness) has no formal university education but does occasionally dress up in a Burkha and is a middle class housewife.

Andrew Gilbey is a Floor Manager for a well known supermarket chain, having worked his way up from the shop floor. (well done Alan)

Please note that this isn’t criticising either housewives, the wearing of the burkha, non univerity qualifications or in fact those who strive to achieve but it would seem that none of these people and in fact, many ‘Skeptic’ posters on this site have any formal health care education, with the possibility that many may have no formal university research training either and not to doctorate or masters level? Some in fact, if my assumptions are accurate, are simply friends of the Henness’s just brought in to make up the numbers (if any of these statements are in fact incorrect and inaccurate, and I am sure they will happily put us right, then I would be more than happy to be proved wrong and apologise)

If my assumptions are correct, and based on their total unwillingness to accept anything positive about our profession, and all groups have both positive and negative attributes, which may lead to a debate rather than this childish name calling, then why are we even posting here. A cretin is a cretin, hatred is hatred and of course bigotry is bigotry, whatever the avatar or whatever the title they go under, skeptic or otherwise.

Reading past posts both here and on Mrs Henness’s blog, they have stopped people posting who disagree with them, skeptic or otherwise, in order to keep their blog ‘clean’. All pretty sinister stuff I think.

That is my tuppence worth, but Mrs Henness’s rather silly response with regards President Obama says it all. You either agree with these people or you are wrong. This is irrelevent of whether you are President of one of the most powerful nations on earth with access to a multitude of well informed and well educated advisors or not. Wow, how arrogent are they, but then of course they do have a direct line to Professor Ernst who, if they are to be believed is always right, so maybe they see that as balancing it out, or not as the case may be.

Sadly history is full of the arrogent and ignorent but happily they are usually seen by the vast majority for what they are and ignored, I believe we must do the same.

The chiropractic profession will be what the profession will be, not because of them, but in spite of them.

Now if they have any sense they will do as they usually do when cornered, make another blog heading and move on. But of course they may just feel the need to have just on last rant?

One would have to hope that silence ensues and they leave debating to those who are more able to assimilate the information in a reasoned manner and therefore reach a sensible and informed conclusion, something it would seem that to date these people are incapable of.

A correlation between Alzheimer’s and skepticism? Sounds like one for “Medical Hypotheses”. Obviously I’m sorry to read that you have it, however, on a positive note, I’m sure it’s treatable by chiropractic (e.g., a quick jab on vertebrae number 16 should do the trick , twice a week for the rest of your life, obviously – sign here, here and here. Or was it number 18? )

Can you clarify one thing for me, Stefaan? Do you see chiropractic as falling under the general heading of CAM?