Comments on: Omnibus Complaint to the General Chiropractic Council

By: The 21st Floor » Blog Archive » “What do we want?” … “SCIENCE!”

Fri, 23 Apr 2010 23:04:58 +0000

[...] support the action taken by Zeno and Simon Perry. Their complaints to the General Chiropractic Council (GCC) about members of the [...]

By: Beware The Geeks « View From Planet Jamie

Beware The Geeks « View From Planet Jamie — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:17:47 +0000

[...] support for Simon Singh increased. Many chiropractors making the very claims Singh rebuffed found themselves subject to formal complaints. McTimoney chiropractors were told by their association to take down their websites and remove [...]

By: houston chiropractic spammer

houston chiropractic spammer — Tue, 15 Dec 2009 01:09:40 +0000

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By: Zeno

Zeno — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:24:06 +0000

Spokane chiropractor: What research?

By: spokane chiropractic

spokane chiropractic — Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:18:15 +0000

Chiropractic are having a lot of claims in terms of cure in different ailment.. If it isn’t true, why is it there’s a lot of research about it? confusing…

By: gimpy’s blog

gimpy’s blog — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 19:03:11 +0000

[...] them from making up the rules as they go along. They also, in an unexpected moment of cogency, recognise the dangers of regulation. The chiropractors are currently going through a very difficult time, and this is directly linked [...]

By: Marcus Green

Marcus Green — Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:25:04 +0000

I'd just like to correct the description of visiting a GP with high blood pressure according to my experience...

orignally

"GP measures blood pressure
Gets a high reading
Prescribes a drug to lower it"

"GP measures blood pressure
Gets a high reading
Takes blood pressure twice more in two week intervals.
Arranges for 24 hour monitoring on device attached to patient.
Gets sent to see specialist
Specialist discusses life style and recommends changes to said life style
Prescribes drugs
(followed by further monitoring, change of drugs etc etc)
"

By: Zeno is an ill-informed fool

Zeno is an ill-informed fool — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 15:55:52 +0000

Oh dear "Zeno", it seems many more people are against you than are with you now! I guess you've stirred the witches that you have been hunting, and unfortunately for you they are all a hell of a lot more intelligent and well-informed than you will ever be. Ha ha.

By: andrew gilbey

andrew gilbey — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:09:45 +0000

In answer to BCA Chiro's question, "What is good evidence?" There is a generally acepted heirachy of evidence. Check it out here: http://www.wmin.ac.uk/sih/page-484 Note it doesn't even mention case studies – The JVSR's favourite.

By: Zeno

Zeno — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:06:24 +0000

Continued...

I am entitled to my opinion about chiropractic, but the only opinions I expressed in my complaint — which is what matters — were:

"I believe that some or all of the claims (whether specified by the ASA or not) made by those on the attached list are not capable of being substantiated to the ASA’s standard and therefore should not be claimed by any chiropractor under the GCC CoP."

"I believe this contravenes paragraph C1.8 of your CoP, the ASA’s guidance in AdviceOnline: Use of the Term "Dr" and various ASA adjudications including Wigan Family Chiropractic Clinic, 25 February 2009."

"I believe that the public are currently not being protected and indeed may be exposed to harm by the claims being made by GCC registered chiropractors and I understand that it is the responsibility of the GCC to ensure that this situation is remedied and controls put in place to ensure the public are fully protected in future."

I've raised concerns that some chiropractors may be in contravention of their CoP. As I've now said several times: if the GCC are furnished with the relevant level of substantiation for the claims made, the chiropractor would be admonished. If they cannot meet the requirements of the CoP, then sanctions have to be considered. Don't you think that's right?

If you want to discuss the detail of particular research into chiropractic, many papers (including what is presumably the best teh BCA can muster) have been analysed on other websites. I suggest you read what they have to say and try to counter their arguments and conclusion. There is a fairly comprehensive list here.

There has been much talk of what — or your trade organisations — were sleeping when this slipped through, then you need to be directing your attention elsewhere.