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		<title>By: Homeopathy Awareness Week: Bloggers versus Journalists &#171; Stuff And Nonsense</title>
		<link>http://www.zenosblog.com/2009/06/lets-be-aware-very-aware/comment-page-1/#comment-18023</link>
		<dc:creator>Homeopathy Awareness Week: Bloggers versus Journalists &#171; Stuff And Nonsense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Oct 2010 17:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has urged us to Let&#8217;s be aware. Very aware. Zeno discusses the letter from Lewith, Dixon and Fisher published in the Guardian on [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Zeno</title>
		<link>http://www.zenosblog.com/2009/06/lets-be-aware-very-aware/comment-page-1/#comment-1802</link>
		<dc:creator>Zeno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, Nancy, homeopathy does absolutely nothing. It is useless. And because it is useless, it is dangerous when you lie to perhaps desperate and vulnerable people and mislead them into thinking you can cure all manner of serious medical conditions. This gives them false hope and delays them from getting proper medical help and sometimes this kills them.

Homeopathy has been shown to be useless many times. Your ridiculous assertions about it working and your continual spamming of blogs with your comment will persuade no one.

I&#039;m sure you couldn&#039;t have looked very closely at this blog or you would have realised that you already knew what I&#039;m about to say to you:

We&#039;re STILL waiting for you at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thinkhumanism.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=14&amp;t=2871&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Think Humanism&lt;/a&gt; so we can do the test of a homeopathic potion you promised you&#039;d do (and which you claimed you could pass).

Are you EVER going to keep your promise - or do you now think you can&#039;t tell the difference between a homeopathic potion and water?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Nancy, homeopathy does absolutely nothing. It is useless. And because it is useless, it is dangerous when you lie to perhaps desperate and vulnerable people and mislead them into thinking you can cure all manner of serious medical conditions. This gives them false hope and delays them from getting proper medical help and sometimes this kills them.</p>
<p>Homeopathy has been shown to be useless many times. Your ridiculous assertions about it working and your continual spamming of blogs with your comment will persuade no one.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure you couldn&#8217;t have looked very closely at this blog or you would have realised that you already knew what I&#8217;m about to say to you:</p>
<p>We&#8217;re STILL waiting for you at <a href="http://www.thinkhumanism.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=14&#038;t=2871" rel="nofollow">Think Humanism</a> so we can do the test of a homeopathic potion you promised you&#8217;d do (and which you claimed you could pass).</p>
<p>Are you EVER going to keep your promise &#8211; or do you now think you can&#8217;t tell the difference between a homeopathic potion and water?</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Nancy Malik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Nancy Malik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Homeopathy cures even when Conventional Allopathic Medicine (CAM) fails</description>
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		<title>By: Zeno</title>
		<link>http://www.zenosblog.com/2009/06/lets-be-aware-very-aware/comment-page-1/#comment-142</link>
		<dc:creator>Zeno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 00:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks apg! I didn&#039;t really have the time to go through them (although I know others have already done so).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks apg! I didn&#39;t really have the time to go through them (although I know others have already done so).</p>
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		<title>By: apgaylard</title>
		<link>http://www.zenosblog.com/2009/06/lets-be-aware-very-aware/comment-page-1/#comment-125</link>
		<dc:creator>apgaylard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 11:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post.  If you read what the Cochrane reviews actually say, the letter looks less than honest.  It&#039;s hard to categorise outcomes at times - but there is nothing to justify actually using these treatments on patients.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here&#039;s my summary:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;NEGATIVE&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;Overall the results of this review found no evidence of effectiveness for homeopathy for the global symptoms, core symptoms or related outcomes of attention deficit/hyperactivity disorder.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Heirs M, Dean ME. Homeopathy for attention deficit/hyperactivity disorder or hyperkinetic disorder. Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews 2007, Issue 4. Art. No.: CD005648. DOI: 10.1002/14651858.CD005648.pub2. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;The review of trials found […] that no strong evidence existed that usual forms of homeopathy for asthma are effective […]  Until stronger evidence exists for the use of homeopathy in the treatment of asthma, we are unable to make recommendations about homeopathic treatment.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;McCarney RW, Linde K, Lasserson TJ. Homeopathy for chronic asthma. Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews 2004, Issue 1. Art. No.: CD000353. DOI: 10.1002/14651858.CD000353.pub2&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;The researchers did not find any good quality trials and so cannot say whether it is or is not effective for treating this condition. As no information is available on how much homeopathy is used for dementia, it is difficult to say whether it is important to conduct more trials.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;McCarney RW, Warner J, Fisher P, van Haselen R. Homeopathy for dementia. Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews 2003, Issue 1. Art. No.: CD003803. DOI: 10.1002/14651858.CD003803&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;[…] there were no trials including homeopathy […]&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Glazener CMA, Evans JHC, Cheuk DKL. Complementary and miscellaneous interventions for nocturnal enuresis in children. Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews 2005, Issue 2. Art. No.: CD005230. DOI: 10.1002/14651858.CD005230&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;[…] trials demonstrated no differences in any primary or secondary outcome between the treatment and control group […] there was not enough evidence to show the effect of a homoeopathy as a method of induction […]&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Smith CA. Homoeopathy for induction of labour. Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews 2003, Issue 4. Art. No.: CD003399. DOI: 10.1002/14651858.CD003399.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;INCONCLUSIVE&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&quot;[…] Trials do not show that homoeopathic Oscillococcinum can prevent influenza. However, taking homoeopathic Oscillococcinum once you have influenza might shorten the illness, but more research is needed […]&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Vickers A, Smith C. Homoeopathic Oscillococcinum for preventing and treating influenza and influenza-like syndromes. Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews 2006, Issue 3. Art. No.: CD001957. DOI: 10.1002/14651858.CD001957.pub3&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One of the other problems here is generalising.  At best, it might help shave a few hours off a flu-like episode (more likely, the result is just an artefact of bias).  This is the best support that Cochrane provides.  Yet, I&#039;m sure that Fisher&#039;s hospital treats more than the &#039;flu ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post.  If you read what the Cochrane reviews actually say, the letter looks less than honest.  It&#39;s hard to categorise outcomes at times &#8211; but there is nothing to justify actually using these treatments on patients.</p>
<p>Here&#39;s my summary:</p>
<p>NEGATIVE</p>
<p>&quot;Overall the results of this review found no evidence of effectiveness for homeopathy for the global symptoms, core symptoms or related outcomes of attention deficit/hyperactivity disorder.&quot;</p>
<p>Heirs M, Dean ME. Homeopathy for attention deficit/hyperactivity disorder or hyperkinetic disorder. Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews 2007, Issue 4. Art. No.: CD005648. DOI: 10.1002/14651858.CD005648.pub2. </p>
<p>&quot;The review of trials found […] that no strong evidence existed that usual forms of homeopathy for asthma are effective […]  Until stronger evidence exists for the use of homeopathy in the treatment of asthma, we are unable to make recommendations about homeopathic treatment.&quot;</p>
<p>McCarney RW, Linde K, Lasserson TJ. Homeopathy for chronic asthma. Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews 2004, Issue 1. Art. No.: CD000353. DOI: 10.1002/14651858.CD000353.pub2</p>
<p>INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE</p>
<p>&quot;The researchers did not find any good quality trials and so cannot say whether it is or is not effective for treating this condition. As no information is available on how much homeopathy is used for dementia, it is difficult to say whether it is important to conduct more trials.&quot;</p>
<p>McCarney RW, Warner J, Fisher P, van Haselen R. Homeopathy for dementia. Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews 2003, Issue 1. Art. No.: CD003803. DOI: 10.1002/14651858.CD003803</p>
<p>&quot;[…] there were no trials including homeopathy […]&quot;</p>
<p>Glazener CMA, Evans JHC, Cheuk DKL. Complementary and miscellaneous interventions for nocturnal enuresis in children. Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews 2005, Issue 2. Art. No.: CD005230. DOI: 10.1002/14651858.CD005230</p>
<p>&quot;[…] trials demonstrated no differences in any primary or secondary outcome between the treatment and control group […] there was not enough evidence to show the effect of a homoeopathy as a method of induction […]&quot;</p>
<p>Smith CA. Homoeopathy for induction of labour. Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews 2003, Issue 4. Art. No.: CD003399. DOI: 10.1002/14651858.CD003399.</p>
<p>INCONCLUSIVE</p>
<p>&quot;[…] Trials do not show that homoeopathic Oscillococcinum can prevent influenza. However, taking homoeopathic Oscillococcinum once you have influenza might shorten the illness, but more research is needed […]&quot;</p>
<p>Vickers A, Smith C. Homoeopathic Oscillococcinum for preventing and treating influenza and influenza-like syndromes. Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews 2006, Issue 3. Art. No.: CD001957. DOI: 10.1002/14651858.CD001957.pub3</p>
<p>One of the other problems here is generalising.  At best, it might help shave a few hours off a flu-like episode (more likely, the result is just an artefact of bias).  This is the best support that Cochrane provides.  Yet, I&#39;m sure that Fisher&#39;s hospital treats more than the &#39;flu &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Zeno</title>
		<link>http://www.zenosblog.com/2009/06/lets-be-aware-very-aware/comment-page-1/#comment-124</link>
		<dc:creator>Zeno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 09:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carmenego&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They aren&#039;t doing any research into homeopathy (nor should they): they are just spending £12 million on potions that have been shown to have no effect over placebo.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, there is certainly a debate to be had over the use of placebo, but that is separate from the wasted £12 million.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carmenego</p>
<p>They aren&#39;t doing any research into homeopathy (nor should they): they are just spending £12 million on potions that have been shown to have no effect over placebo.</p>
<p>Now, there is certainly a debate to be had over the use of placebo, but that is separate from the wasted £12 million.</p>
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		<title>By: Carmenego</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carmenego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 09:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The NHS isn&#039;t made up of complete idiots (I hope). At a wild party over the weekend, I was debating the placebo effect in homeopathy with someone who would recommend it to others, and he was quite happy to admit that it is plausible for homeopathy to be no more than a placebo.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;With this in mind, do you think it&#039;s possible that the NHS are spending £12million on researching the placebo effect?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NHS isn&#39;t made up of complete idiots (I hope). At a wild party over the weekend, I was debating the placebo effect in homeopathy with someone who would recommend it to others, and he was quite happy to admit that it is plausible for homeopathy to be no more than a placebo.</p>
<p>With this in mind, do you think it&#39;s possible that the NHS are spending £12million on researching the placebo effect?</p>
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